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Important Thoughts on Faith, Fellowship, and Mirrors

by Chautona Havig · 15 Comments

A few years ago, I saw something happening in homeschooling circles. I saw people excluding others because they weren’t “godly enough.” I saw people withdrawing more and more from the world around them until they became isolated mini-clusters.

Look. It’s appealing to people like me. I like being alone in my own little bubble. But I also know how dangerous it is. And the more I looked, the more I saw the pain this kind of isolation would produce.

I wrote a blog post on my old blog and called it “Fellowshipping with the Mirror.” With it, I hoped to remind people that the whole “not being of the world” thing didn’t mean tossing James’ admonition not to be preferential in our treatment of one another out the window. Few people ever read it, but it was cathartic to write.

I see this trend returning.

Churches splitting into groups of “pro” or “con” ___ (insert social or cultural trend here). Homeschool groups deciding that they can protect their kids from corruption by refusing alumni to participate in activities after graduation. Families deciding that those weird people who only wear skirts or only read KJV aren’t welcome because they don’t want to feel judged.

Okay, I know. It never really left. But it’s more obvious to me right now. So… I wanted to share my revised version of that post.

Important Thoughts on Faith, Fellowship, and Mirrors

Important Thoughts on Faith, Fellowship, and Mirrors

I hear a lot of talk about likemindedness. Some call it likeheartedness. The theory seems to be that if you find people who share your personal convictions it’ll produce perfect fellowship.

Look, I understand the premise, and to a certain degree, it is wise. Time spent with people who hold dangerous theological positions just begs for confusion—both for ourselves and our children. And let’s face it, people who are antagonistic to the choices you’ve made for your life aren’t exactly conducive to friendship and harmony.

And, I will admit that it is logical that we seek people with whom we have something in common. I mean, c’mon. The Amish do not spend hours upon end hobnobbing with the Kardashians (or whatever you call ‘em). Both would be incredibly uncomfortable and it would probably require a compromise of their understanding of Biblical standards by the Amish.

The same is true of incredibly diverse friends (and by diverse, I mean lifestyles and beliefs, not colors—hate that I even have to clarify that. Ugh.).

They may be good for short visits but a close acquaintance who is antagonistic to your life isn’t likely. This is only a natural course of life. It’s kind of like cats and mice. Rarely are they best buds, you know?

However, if you look at the disciples, you see a wide variety of people.

Just how likeminded were they? Their occupations were diverse, their theological training hardly comparable, and they disagreed like roosters in the chicken coop. They held basic beliefs in common but had different priorities for their lives. (Peter and Paul are about as opposite in lifestyle and education as you could get!)

What if homeschooling families only interacted with other homeschooling families who use the same curriculum, were of the same “social status,” and had the same goals for their families?

Other families would be deprived of knowing some great people, the family might find out that there is a curriculum out there that would solve most of their homeschooling headaches, and they might just begin to understand why others hold differing beliefs or personal convictions.

What a concept.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m not for sending our three-year-olds off to preschool to be “salt and light” to their peers.

You’ll never see me recommend that we send our elementary students to Vacation Bible School at a church whose doctrine is so far removed from ours that it borders on heresy and will confuse our children.

Trust me. You won’t hear me suggest that our teens attend rave parties to preach to the lost. I am certainly not for sending struggling stay-at-home mamas to constantly be influenced by those who appear to have an easier life of no diapers, declarative sentences, or dinner.

We need encouragement by people who understand our lives.

Preferably by those who have run the same race we’re running and know how to get over the peculiar hurdles that our race holds.

I firmly believe that when we don’t look for that kind of encouragement, we get beaten down and “grow weary in well-doing.”

However, too often I hear families decrying that there is no one in their denomination that holds every one of their personal convictions or standards. No one to fellowship with.

WHAT?

HearthLand personal convictionsMust we have carbon copies of ourselves before someone is worthy of our fellowship? How sad. Honestly, if we find carbon copies of ourselves, one of us is redundant and unnecessary.

Actually, this is one of the issues I addressed in HearthLand… and for this reason.  Kirk Patrick (yes, I had fun with that name.  Sue me–no don’t.  Please.) wanted a “likeminded” or “likehearted” community of only people holding similar if not identical personal convictions.  And Ralph said no.  I think Ralph was wise, although I have to admit.  There were times I wanted that very thing when I was raising my kids.

Still…

If you want someone to fellowship with who is just like you… perhaps you should try a mirror. Mirrors don’t argue, they hold identical personal convictions, and any hint of disagreement withers at a glance. How much more perfect can it get?

Look, I don’t want to pretend that it isn’t wise to spend at least some of your free time with people who have the same core values and hold the same basic Biblical understanding you do. It absolutely is.

But if you’re always looking for someone just a bit more like you before you invest in a relationship, are you really looking for fellowship or is it time to just go buy a mirror?

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  1. 1221bookworm says

    March 1, 2018 at 8:18 pm

    So true – and most painfully in the homeschooling community. We always think that we are immune from it, and often don’t recognize when we are doing it to ourselves.

    Reply
    • Chautona Havig says

      March 1, 2018 at 8:22 pm

      Yep. It’s kind of funny because we complain about “age segregation” but we’re really good at “spiritual segregation.”

      Reply
  2. ozarkgrandma says

    February 27, 2018 at 9:13 am

    well said – er, written! I met a family recently who I think is doing this very thing. “House church” = only their family, because they haven’t yet found a church that meets they agree with, or meets their code. I think they were part of an established church in a different location in the past. I don’t know how or if I can help them?

    Reply
    • Chautona Havig says

      February 27, 2018 at 7:22 pm

      I’ve actually been there–searching for some church somewhere that just sticks only to the Bible and the more I searched, the more I wanted to refine, and refine, and refine to just exactly what my personal comfort zone is.

      I’m just not so sure we’re supposed to be “comfortable” with the church. We’re supposed to grow, stretch, and learn. We’re supposed to SERVE.

      Reply
      • Susan (DE) says

        February 27, 2018 at 7:54 pm

        Perhaps they’ve been hurt? I can see doing that for a shortish period (a year or so) to heal.

        Reply
        • Chautona Havig says

          February 27, 2018 at 11:02 pm

          Yep! I can, too. I actually have in my heart. I spent a year just “attending” and not engaging after really hurting over the backlash of changing our theological position in an area. Minor change, but the fallout was ugly. Had I felt like I COULD just skip for a year, I absolutely would have.

          Reply
        • Chautona Havig says

          February 27, 2018 at 11:03 pm

          I also wonder if the parents may not be introverts. If they just moved there, it might take a while to feel comfortable reaching out to new people. They’re still getting their nest in order.

          Reply
  3. Sunshine says

    February 27, 2018 at 5:22 am

    Great post! And to the people who are so cloistered, so picky with their “fellowship,” who is their ministry? Many of them claim to be Christians, but are spiritually impotent. How can we bring Christ to lost people if we never build relationships with lost people? I know when we have young children, it is imperative to protect our children….so we can host the play dates at our home. Kids learn their values at home…even their love for the lost!

    Reply
    • Chautona Havig says

      February 27, 2018 at 7:45 pm

      One of the most unusual things I’ve seen has been families who will crawl into the trenches and help the lost but will not fellowship with people outside of Sunday morning because they consider those people sub-par Christians. It taught me much, though. I think I could have fallen into that trap if I hadn’t learned by observation just how wrong it is.

      Reply
  4. Mari Tysar says

    February 26, 2018 at 8:42 am

    Thank you for sharing this. Reminds me that I don’t want the isolation I think I’ve been craving. Thank you for always sharing.

    Reply
    • Chautona Havig says

      February 26, 2018 at 10:51 pm

      I know how you feel. I crave isolation as well. But we’re called to community. Even introverts. “When” you come together. Not if. I remind myself so often that sometimes it feels like I’ve adopted a mantra–not exactly what I was going for there. 🙂

      Reply
  5. Joy says

    February 26, 2018 at 7:44 am

    “Variety is the spice of life” the old adage goes, and I believe it’s true. But where both variety and children exist, there are bound to be questions. It’s those questions I find to be the “tripping hazards” of fellowship (not stumbling blocks – nothing so big or fatal to faith, but definitely leading to sore toes in friendships).

    “Why do they get to…” requires an explaination of how I, as a parent, have arrived at the boundaries I set for behavior, speech, dress, etc. When that explaination includes references to the Bible, my understanding of the teachings of Jesus, or the tenants of my church, there is always the opportunity for my words to be interpreted as a judgement of the other family’s faith.
    And kids, in general, lack any sense of nuance. So no matter how I couch my explaination in terms of grace, Christian liberty or “all things are permissible; not all things are beneficial”, at some future date I am likely to hear my children say “We don’t do that because God says it’s wrong. It’s not pure, lovely, noble or true.”

    That will certainly add some spice to the fellowship.

    Reply
    • Chautona Havig says

      February 26, 2018 at 3:09 pm

      Yes, this definitely happens. And not just with our children. Other people’s children hear we choose xyz because it’s an outpouring of our faith and assume that either
      1. We think they’re wrong and they feel judged.
      or
      2. Their parents aren’t as godly, and they judge.

      I found using allergies was a good way to show that what might be lawful (not allergenic) for one person could be poison (allergenic) for another. Didn’t always work, but it worked more often than not.

      Reply
  6. Andrea Stoeckel says

    February 26, 2018 at 6:54 am

    Touché Chautona!

    Reply
  7. Lucinda says

    February 26, 2018 at 6:36 am

    “Honestly, if we find carbon copies of ourselves, one of us is redundant and unnecessary.”
    Arrow. Bullseye.

    Reply

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