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Did Tongues of Fire Live Up to Its Promises?

by Chautona Havig · 10 Comments

Tongues of Fire is a 50-day devotional for Pentecost, but how does it live up to its claims? Well, it has its ups and downs, unfortunately. via @chautonahavig

“You keep doing that. You keep choosing to read books you know you’ll disagree with.”

Look, it’s a valid point. I won’t pretend it’s not. But unlike the not-so-subtle implication of the accusation, I really don’t go looking for books to spend hours reading so I can then say how much I didn’t like them. As someone once said about something, “Ain’t nobody got time for that.”

Sometimes, I get asked to review something and I say, “No… sorry.” That’s usually when I both know I won’t like it and don’t expect to find anything in it that I do like.

However, when a book comes along that isn’t really my cup of tea, but I know I’ll probably learn something, then if my reviewing it will help, I’ll agree.

That happened when the opportunity to read, Tongues of Fire came along. A fifty-day devotional on Pentecost, I knew the content would clash with my own understanding of Scripture. So, why did I agree?

Because I have friends and readers who believe things about Pentecost, the Holy Spirit, “tongues,” and other “manifestations of the Spirit” and I want to understand why they believe what they do.

I figured if anything could do that, Tongues of Fire might be one. It promised to help us celebrate the “wild tongues of fire that signified the coming of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost.”

Did Tongues of Fire Live Up to Its Promise?

Did Tongues of Fire Live Up to Its Promises?

Actually, yes it did. It celebrated the amazing beauty and power that came at Pentecost in a rich and wonderful way.

With devotional messages from preachers I recognized from times past (Finney, Wesley, Murray, and others), as well as those from people I don’t recognize from today (except for James Goll whose book I reviewed last week) the book covers topics like speaking in tongues, healing, faith, and more.

Every lesson’s emphasis is on what the Holy Spirit is doing in your life today. For that, I applaud the effort.

Unfortunately, the daily lessons were disjointed and sometimes contradictory. I found it difficult to figure out what some of the modern teachers were trying to accomplish in their lessons.

Additionally, I had serious issues with part of the content.

Like I said, I came prepared to learn and understand. While I didn’t expect to have my mind changed by the content of a devotional, I was willing to be shown to be wrong.

Still, that’s not the point of a book like this. Because of that, I just didn’t think it would happen, and it didn’t. I knew I’d disagree with things, and I was prepared to say what they were and move past.

A few things I could not move past, and I think they’re important to note. In no particular order, except that it may be the order they appear in the book. I’m not sure. These were some of the biggest things I took issue with. Two, in my opinion, are unacceptable to find in a Christian book.

  1. The pastor of a church has the power to block the power of the Holy Spirit in his church.

This one I reread half a dozen times to be sure that’s what he said. If it is not, then he needs to rewrite his sentence, because I can’t make it say anything else.

  1. We must invite the Holy Spirit to come to us.

I understood what the teacher was trying to say, but I simply don’t find Scriptural example or command to do this. The Holy Spirit is here with us as believers, because that is where He lives and what He does, not because we followed the right formula to have Him as a part of our lives.

  1. Contrary to former claims, one man rightly says that even if we try to block the power of the Holy Spirit, we can’t.

Frankly, I was happy to see this one. I don’t object to it at all, but I do note it because of that contradiction with #2.

  1. One author defines the “foolish virgins” as those who have accepted Christ but who have not been “baptized into the Holy Spirit” as per his definition. If I read him correctly, then when he says,

    “Dearly beloved, the only people that will meet our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and go with Him into the marriage supper of the Lamb, are the wise virgins,” t

hen Christ’s saving work on the cross wasn’t enough. This was one thing I couldn’t overlook as “educational.” Had the book not been a devotional with many authors in it, I would have stopped reading there.

I am glad I did keep going. There were solid nuggets later.

  1. After several reads and rereads, I still can’t pretend that one of the authors didn’t say that if we aren’t healed of whatever our affliction is, it’s an issue of a lack of faith.

So much damage has been done to the church with claims like that. There, I also wanted to close the book permanently. I did, however, continue to the 80% mark.

I can’t recommend the book.

Even the parts I did like and learned from and found helpful in understanding people I love and care about were frustrating to read and not well organized. Had this book been written about every single thing I fully agree with, I still would not give it a high review for the way it’s laid out and such.

Still, even had I loved every single bit except for those five points, two of those were serious enough that I can’t give it a high rating. I can’t recommend it due to it linking salvation to an expression of something rather than the work of Jesus in us and to linking a lack of our fallen bodies being less than perfect to a lack of faith. Those two things are anti-Biblical as far as I understand Scripture.

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  1. Arletta says

    May 24, 2019 at 9:03 pm

    I have a lot of issues with #5! I’m not sure if I’d like or finish this book.

    Reply
  2. Joy @ Real World Bible Study says

    May 22, 2019 at 7:37 pm

    Chautona, I didn’t sign up for this one because my calendar was full…and because I’m pikcy about content. But for what it’s worth, I’m a spirit-filled, tongues-speaking Pentecostal pastor and I would have had the same issues with this book that you did. I’m always so glad to see you consistently test your own views and look for something to learn. 🙂

    Reply
  3. James Robert says

    May 22, 2019 at 5:22 am

    I appreciate an honest review and thank you for sharing.

    Reply
  4. Rosie says

    May 22, 2019 at 4:10 am

    I love an honest review!

    Reply
  5. Rev.Andrea Stoeckel BSW,MTS,M.Div,PTS says

    May 21, 2019 at 2:07 pm

    As a retired pastor with 3 Masters who’s about to celebrate a momentous anniversary in the pulpit this year, I stand with you. I have seen some remarkable things Spirit can do but….
    ~A pastor has absolutely no power to stop Spirit.
    ~Spirit is there, all around us.
    ~The word FOR spirit in Greek is PNEUMA- wind.
    ~Spirit is always there, it’s our free will that allows us to ignore it or accept it
    ~ The Wild tongues were languages the disciples may not have know, but much like Babel, they were languages the other ones around them. They edified the witnesses, not the participants.

    That last one is what makes me upset. I’ve sat in Pentecostal Churches who thought there was something wrong with me since I wasn’t “slain in the Spirit”. I’ve sat in auditoriums fulled with other students “speaking in tongues” that couldn’t understand why I wasn’t as well. In those situations at that time, I wonder if I was doing something “wrong”.

    And…I’m just as Christian as they are…. Books like this need to have caveats. This is my opinion and I speak for no one but myself

    Reply
  6. Laura Hile says

    May 21, 2019 at 12:46 pm

    Thank you for this thoughtful (full-of-thought) review.The points you made are important ones.

    Reply
  7. Amelia says

    May 21, 2019 at 12:28 pm

    Thank you for the review!

    Reply
  8. Lisa Smith says

    May 21, 2019 at 11:57 am

    I have to agree with what points you made. Doesn’t sound like something I would want to read.

    Reply
  9. Rita Wray says

    May 21, 2019 at 10:06 am

    Sounds like a book I will enjoy reading.

    Reply
  10. Vicki Hancock says

    May 21, 2019 at 9:49 am

    They have some odd practices but I guess every religion has things we disagree with. I am with you as I don’t understand a lot of this but I guess to each his own.

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