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What’s Better Than a Great Novel? How about THIS?

by Chautona Havig · 3 Comments

Joiya Morrison-Efemini and I talk about writing dreams, styles, and habits, and also diverse fiction, recommended books, and her new release, Petrified Flowers via @chautonahavig

Here’s the deal. I get emails requesting to be on the show, and I’m always eager to make it happen if I can. So when I got the opportunity to have Joiya Morrison Efemini on the podcast, I jumped at it.

Did I know anything about her? Nope. Had I ever read anything by her? Nuh-uh. Did I panic when I read about her unique writing style?

Maaaybeee…

Still, I plunged into reading her book and “hoped for the best.” What I found was something surprisingly poignant and powerful.

What's better than a great novel episode 22

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What’s Better Than a Great Novel? How about THIS?

A novel written in verse. Yeah, I dreaded it. What if I didn’t like it? What if it was—oh, Lord, please no—in free verse. What if it wasn’t and it read like a children’s rhyming book until I wanted to tear out my hair? What if…

The world is full of what-ifs, but one I didn’t have to worry about was “what if I don’t like Joiya Morrison-Efemini’s book, Petrified Flowers. After a couple of swipes of the Kindle page, I was hooked. On the line. Sunk into the depths of a story so rich it wouldn’t let me go.

And here’s where I confess even more.

Yes, the book is written in a hybrid of rhyming and free verse. Yes, I fully expected not to like it. And of course, I was absolutely wrong.

petrified flowers cover joiya morrison efeminiAlso in This Episode:

Joiya and I talk about her journey from lawyer to stay-at-home-mom and author, how she got started writing novels in verse, and about her new work-in-progress that isn’t in verse. We get the story behind her three books:

  • The Notes They Played
  • The Impossible (you want this NOW. And I haven’t even read it yet)
  • Petrified Flowers 

Petrified Flowers is her most recent release, and Joiya talks about how an HBO documentary, Class Divide, that discusses an elite private school in NYC situated directly opposite a housing project. That story stayed with her until she just had to write the story that kept me ignoring my own work. Thanks a lot, Joiya. No, really. I needed a break. Now I’m using the second half as my reward when I finish this book!

I was fascinated to discover that our writing processes look quite similar (and completely opposite).

While she dons running shoes to do her brainstorming, I jump behind the wheel of our car and toodle on down the road. Still, she’s probably much healthier than I am, but I think I’m okay with that.

Seriously, though, we had a great time, laughing and joking. I get this gal—just the kind of person you hope to have as your neighbor. As we talked about her favorite books as well as the racial issues in her books, she shared several books she thought would be beneficial to people hoping to understand the turmoil in our world today.

They’re top of my non-work TBR pile now. Because after talking with Joiya, I’m ready to listen much more than I ever have been before. It’s not that I’ve never cared about racial inequality and ugliness. I hate it. However, sometimes it comes at you in the form of an attack that puts you naturally on the defensive. Joiya came at it from a different angle that drew me into a conversation and made me eager to listen, to understand.

be the bridge The books Joiya recommended were:

Out of Dust by Karen Hesse (a beautiful example of novels in verse)

Be the Bridge by Latasha Morrison

So You Want to Talk about Race by Ijeoma Uluo

To learn more about Joiya, visit her at her WEBSITE.

And seriously, pray for her physician husband and Joiya’s family. Being on Covid frontlines can’t be easy for any of them.

*** Congrats to Faith for winning the book!**

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  1. Faith says

    August 6, 2020 at 8:30 am

    I’ve never read her books. I would love to win this one to read!

    Reply
  2. Tabitha Trudeau says

    August 5, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    Sounds like a veey unique book. Would love to read and I’ll look her up even if I don’t win.

    Reply
  3. Andrea Stoeckel says

    August 4, 2020 at 9:52 am

    Chautona, the links to share aren’t working (I get a 202 found message)

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Episode 580: A Chat with R. T. Ward
byChautona Havig

One thing good fantasy often has is the whole “prophecy” angle–and how it affects the folks involved. But what if, in addition to that, you also find out that who you thought you ARE… is all wrong? Listen in as R. T. Ward and I chat about her book, Prophecy Changer.

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The creativity of God’s people never ceaces to astound me, and this conversation was further proof of that.

Prophecy Changer by R. T. Ward

Trauma has taken root in Thea’s soul, leaving behind questions she can no longer silence. When long-buried memories begin to surface, the truth presses in demanding to be seen, felt, and faced.

Adopted by the Mirascan people, Thea has always believed herself to be human. But as fragments of her past return, doubt follows. Drawn by questions she can’t answer and a pull she can’t explain, she steps beyond the only world she has ever known, hoping to uncover who she truly is.

Her search leads her into the unknown and into the path of Ilan. Through him, Thea begins to unravel the lies that shaped her life, awakening a deep ache of anger, betrayal, and grief. What she uncovers changes everything.

Caught in the center of a living prophecy, Thea learns of Creashu, the world of her origin, and the calling placed upon her life. As new gifts awaken within her, she must decide whether she will allow her pain to define her…or refine her.

Determined to pursue truth, forgiveness, and the path set before her, Thea faces a choice that will alter more than her own destiny. The future of two worlds hangs in the balance, and the role she was born to fulfill can no longer be ignored. But becoming a Prophecy Changer was never meant to be easy.

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