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Chautona Havig

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What’s Better Than a Great Novel? How about THIS?

by Chautona Havig · 3 Comments

Joiya Morrison-Efemini and I talk about writing dreams, styles, and habits, and also diverse fiction, recommended books, and her new release, Petrified Flowers via @chautonahavig

Here’s the deal. I get emails requesting to be on the show, and I’m always eager to make it happen if I can. So when I got the opportunity to have Joiya Morrison Efemini on the podcast, I jumped at it.

Did I know anything about her? Nope. Had I ever read anything by her? Nuh-uh. Did I panic when I read about her unique writing style?

Maaaybeee…

Still, I plunged into reading her book and “hoped for the best.” What I found was something surprisingly poignant and powerful.

What's better than a great novel episode 22

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What’s Better Than a Great Novel? How about THIS?

A novel written in verse. Yeah, I dreaded it. What if I didn’t like it? What if it was—oh, Lord, please no—in free verse. What if it wasn’t and it read like a children’s rhyming book until I wanted to tear out my hair? What if…

The world is full of what-ifs, but one I didn’t have to worry about was “what if I don’t like Joiya Morrison-Efemini’s book, Petrified Flowers. After a couple of swipes of the Kindle page, I was hooked. On the line. Sunk into the depths of a story so rich it wouldn’t let me go.

And here’s where I confess even more.

Yes, the book is written in a hybrid of rhyming and free verse. Yes, I fully expected not to like it. And of course, I was absolutely wrong.

petrified flowers cover joiya morrison efeminiAlso in This Episode:

Joiya and I talk about her journey from lawyer to stay-at-home-mom and author, how she got started writing novels in verse, and about her new work-in-progress that isn’t in verse. We get the story behind her three books:

  • The Notes They Played
  • The Impossible (you want this NOW. And I haven’t even read it yet)
  • Petrified Flowers 

Petrified Flowers is her most recent release, and Joiya talks about how an HBO documentary, Class Divide, that discusses an elite private school in NYC situated directly opposite a housing project. That story stayed with her until she just had to write the story that kept me ignoring my own work. Thanks a lot, Joiya. No, really. I needed a break. Now I’m using the second half as my reward when I finish this book!

I was fascinated to discover that our writing processes look quite similar (and completely opposite).

While she dons running shoes to do her brainstorming, I jump behind the wheel of our car and toodle on down the road. Still, she’s probably much healthier than I am, but I think I’m okay with that.

Seriously, though, we had a great time, laughing and joking. I get this gal—just the kind of person you hope to have as your neighbor. As we talked about her favorite books as well as the racial issues in her books, she shared several books she thought would be beneficial to people hoping to understand the turmoil in our world today.

They’re top of my non-work TBR pile now. Because after talking with Joiya, I’m ready to listen much more than I ever have been before. It’s not that I’ve never cared about racial inequality and ugliness. I hate it. However, sometimes it comes at you in the form of an attack that puts you naturally on the defensive. Joiya came at it from a different angle that drew me into a conversation and made me eager to listen, to understand.

be the bridge The books Joiya recommended were:

Out of Dust by Karen Hesse (a beautiful example of novels in verse)

Be the Bridge by Latasha Morrison

So You Want to Talk about Race by Ijeoma Uluo

To learn more about Joiya, visit her at her WEBSITE.

And seriously, pray for her physician husband and Joiya’s family. Being on Covid frontlines can’t be easy for any of them.

*** Congrats to Faith for winning the book!**

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  1. Faith says

    August 6, 2020 at 8:30 am

    I’ve never read her books. I would love to win this one to read!

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  2. Tabitha Trudeau says

    August 5, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    Sounds like a veey unique book. Would love to read and I’ll look her up even if I don’t win.

    Reply
  3. Andrea Stoeckel says

    August 4, 2020 at 9:52 am

    Chautona, the links to share aren’t working (I get a 202 found message)

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Episode 530: A Chat with Erica Colahan
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Hey, guys. Listen in as I chat with Erica Colahan about her novel. When an author takes family history and weaves it into a compelling novel, what’s not to love!

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We had a great time learning about Erica’s great grandmother, the family member she found, all their research… it’s.. .amazing!

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Philadelphia, 1897—On the shores of the Delaware River, Italian Catholic Mary Paragano dreams of a happily ever after. However, when she defies her family and runs away to marry Jakob, a Jewish boy, her fairy tale takes an unexpected turn. Disowned by her father, abandoned by Jakob, and pursued by a jealous gangster, Mary’s life spirals into tragedy, culminating in accusations of attempting to harm her own children and a harrowing end in an asylum. Philadelphia, present day—Bella, Mary’s great-great-granddaughter, grapples with the aftermath of her recent divorce. Amidst her pain, a mysterious stranger named Sophie enters her life, claiming to be related to Jakob, the man who left Mary to her devastating fate over a century ago. Together, Bella and Sophie unravel the layers of Mary’s haunting past, question the stories they’ve been told, and uncover the impact of these historical secrets on their modern-day lives. Based on the remarkable true story of the author’s great-great-grandmother, The Oystercatcher of Southwark takes readers on a poignant journey through the immigrant neighborhoods of South Philadelphia. This deftly-woven novel explores the profound love of a mother for her children and the redemptive hope that transcends time.

Learn more Erica on her WEBSITE and follow on GoodReads.

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